Category Archives: fake cards
Is Wolverine24 Back On eBay Already?
There is a thread going on FCB about bigboydsportscards, saying that the auctions this seller are running are very close and/or identical to those of banned seller Wolverine24. These two names are stationed very close together per the thread, and the wording used in the item description is very similar.
For The Millionth Time, Protect Yourself Before You Wreck Yourself
Fakes are an inevitable part of our hobby, and there is nothing we can do about it. Anytime there is a way to make money, there are morally corrupt people out there who will try to take advantage of it. Personally, despite my feelings of anger, I can understand the reasons that people sell the fakes. Its easy, people are stupid, and there is no action that anyone can take to stop it. There has been police involvement in the past, but there has never been a resolution. Only recently did the government get involved, but the focus was more on big offenders rather than the petty crooks. To be completely honest, the action to stop fakes falls on two groups of people, collectors and the manufacturers. Since we all know that the manufacturers have done a whole bag of nothing to help us out before we purchase the fakes, ill focus on the collectors in a recap of how to avoid being caught in a bad way.
Before I move on, this exact topic has been covered before on this blog about ten separate times. Some day, if you have a few hours, it may be in your best interest to do some data mining if you want to learn a little more. The search box at the top right of the blog is incredibly helpful, as is many of the other blogs that are out there. In fact, this is a subject handled almost 100% by message boards and blogs, due to the fact that it is such a hands off topic by both the card companies and the media sources like those douche hats over at Beckett. They are so concerned with not admitting vulnerability or fear of “showing people how to do it” that they have yet to address it publicly. I actually was told once a last year by a manufacturer that they didn’t want me to talk about it because collectors would become fearful enough not to buy their products. I don’t even know where to start with that.
Regardless of how other sources cover this plague, here is a good how to list of how to protect yourself. Not all of it may happen every time a fake is sold, but these are some good red flags to consider.
Know Your Purchase
Know the Prices
Know the Auction Style
Although not as common anymore, it used to be that all the fakers would use private auctions to prevent the message boarders from emailing the high bidders. Although eBay hides the names now, you still see private auctions pop up every once in a while. At that point, just walk away.
Know the Auctions Themselves
Fakers are notoriously stupid people. So, to protect yourself, I am talking about going through the rest of their items and comparing before you buy. I recently talked about a Chris Johnson SPA that sold with such an obviously fake patch that I couldn’t believe it. If the bidders had gone through the rest of the auctions, they would see just how many of those ridiculous cards the seller had up for sale. See, no matter what someone tells you, its incredibly rare to amass a collection of non-shield logo patch cards without a lot of money and a lot of patience. So, if you are about to buy a logo patch card, especially one with a jumbo swatch, check the rest of the stuff the guy has up. If every card he has is a crazy patch, that red flag should pop up immediately.
Know the Cards That Are Prone To Fakes
Some cards are faked more than any on the planet. Those jumbo swatches with full sleeve patches? Yeah, good luck on those. Have a Donruss card with out a diecut window? Have fun. Topps Rookie Premiere autos with multiple good players on them? Sorry dude, you are out of luck. 3 color plus SPA rookie patch autos? Big target in your hands. What most don’t realize is that if you have the ability to recognize an easy target, you can avoid easy fakes. Despite the fact that logo patches are becoming more and more common in lower end cards, they are still rare, so not every person can have one. It also means that you need to watch out before you decide that you AB
SOLUTELY need every patch from that player you collect. Stick to cards you have no doubt on, and recognize an easy target before thinking of bidding. I know that Vikings head Peterson SPA looks cool, but chances are it isnt real.
Know What Players Are Favorite Fakes
Adrian Peterson, Brett Favre, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Matt Ryan, Percy Harvin, Mark Sanchez, the list goes on and on. If the guy is at the top of the league, he is on the list. If he is an inconsequential player that doesn’t command much attention, you are going to be much safer.
Know that Graded Does Not Mean Real
I cant stress this enough. BGS and PSA do not authenticate anything but the card itself. Patches, autos on card, etc are all services outside of normal grading. Scammers use this to their advantage when they authenticate cards that have fake patches or fake autos. If the card itself is real, BGS and PSA consider it to be real, regardless of the other stuff on the card.
I get that prices go down after a few months of being on the market, but if you buy in prime time, 99% of the time the cards are real. Fakers don’t have the time to get brand new cards to counterfeit, and many just don’t know how to do it until they have had some time to play around with the cards. Plus, with many of them trying to focus on making as much money as possible, they arent going to want to pay 20% more for a card that they can purchase cheaper later on. If the card costs 50 bucks after the release bump goes away, maybe its worth paying 60 for it to know you have a real one.
Know That If Its Too Good To Be True, It Usually Is
This old adage has been around for years, and I continue to encourage you to follow it. I know that you want to build the most amazing collection around, but you have to know when to walk away from a bad sale. This is essential when you are buying crazy ridiculous patches and high dollar cards. There is no worse feeling than knowing you have a fake in your hands, especially if you spent a lot of money on it. If you have to buy a sure thing two color Exquisite instead of a questionable three color, where is the harm in that? Even if the card is exceedingly rare, sometimes its better to let it go if you have questions about it. There will always be more cards and more rarities, so don’t fret. With the growing culture of fake cards in this hobby growing exponentially, stay away from those cards that you cant verify 100%. If the card costs ten bucks, that’s one thing, but people regularly drop hundreds on easily identifiable fakes.
Know to Ask For Help
I will guarantee you that every message board and every blogger will have an opinion somewhere for you to seek. Post the auction on FCB, or send one my collegues or myself an email. We are happy to help you stay out of the weeds. We wont call you stupid, and even if we do, you still have a better idea of how to approach the sale.
Lets face it here, the people who do this prey on collector’s inability or unwillingness to gather information about their purchases, and the more people that gain the tools, the less profit the scammers will get. Until they have no money to be made, fakes will continue to be a part of the hobby. On that note, the responsibility falls on our shoulders rather than the shoulders of the regulators. If we protect ourselves, there is no longer a need to try to get police or law enforcement involved.
Kevin Burge Tries To Elude Recognition, Fails.
Guys, I just got an email cluing me into something that we all need to be made aware of. Kevin Burge’s most recognizable account, Shoeless-joejackson, has been switched for the first time in over 6 years. His new name is queencity-sportscards and it can be found here. Be sure to add this seller to your list, as this is actually Burge himself.
For those of you who are unfamiliar, this is one guy I wouldnt trust to clean my bathroom. He sells fake autos, fake slabs, fake patches, and has committed just about every imaginable hobby crime there is. Do not buy his stuff, and search his name on this blog to get a quick history.
He is the douchiest man in the (hobby) world.
Stay collecting my friends.
New Blog With Great Potential For Offsetting Fakes From 2009 SP Authentic
Jeff from I Am Joe Collector has started up a new blog that definitely deserves my and our consideration. Much like the gents from Hobby Kings who started up an exquisite patch auto blog for 2008-2009 Exquisite cards, Jeff is starting it for 2009 SP Authentic. This will be the definitive database of cards that will protect us from cards like this. Kevin Burge and his cronies have made a living selling fake SPA cards and the like, and this will be our evidence to nail him to the wall. With Wolverine recently getting booted from eBay, here is the chance to make a dent in the number of fakes that go undetected after release.