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Breaking the Most Important Rule Of Ebay Buying Will Screw You

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I have always said that when you are looking at buying a ridiculous patch on eBay, the first place you need to look before bidding or buying is the other auctions the guy has up. If he has lots of questionable items for sale, you need to walk away as fast as possible. For some reason, despite all the years of press on fake patches, people just don’t get that the scammers will do whatever it takes to get money from your pocket to theirs. With the recent advent of using more of the best patches on the jersey for even the highest numbered cards, scammers have seen an opportunity for fakes that was never possible before. One douchebag in particular, **ryder**, took it upon himself to pollute the fake patch gene pool as much as he possibly could. Take a look at some of these auctions and you will see what I mean. Almost every single one of his patches is fake, including some of the most poorly done cards I have ever seen. He is also representative of the new trend of three color patchesas fakes instead of logos, a very troubling scenario when dealing with SPA and Exquisite patches. Because there are enough people onto the use of fake logos, some sellers are just substituting believable patches instead of ridiculous fakes.

Here are some of my favorites:

Beanie Wells Fake SPA Patch Auto – This one is almost comical, especially when you see all the other Beanies he has for sale. A few people on FCB were chatting about this one, and I concur with their observation that the patch doesn’t necessitate this price, even if it were real.

Ray Rice Fake SPA Patch Auto – Although there were some Ravens logo patches in 2008 SPA, this isnt one of them. I have said countless times that the sleeve patch for Baltimore rivals the Viking head as the most faked patch around, mainly because of how incredible it looks when real. This one is fake.

Ray Rice Fake Exquisite Patch Auto – See my point above.

Shonn Greene Fake SPA Patch Auto – Since the Jets only have two colors on the entire jersey, the chest logo and the reebok logo are the only premium patches they have. When you see one like this, its pretty hard to think its real. Obviously this one isnt.

All Star Fake #1

Mariano Rivera Fake Yankee Stadium Logo Patch – I can tell you now that there are none of these patches in 2009 Ultimate baseball, and I have even covered this type of card before. Like the Jets, the yankees have few premium patches on their jerseys, which leads to fakes like this to beef up the sales. My guess is that this patch isnt even sewn on to the swatch. Fucking terrible.

All Star Fake #2

Ichiro Suzuki Fake Mariners Logo Patch – Despite my feelings on Topps sterling as a whole, these cards are huge targets for fakes. Huge swatch windows give people the opportunity to remove and replace the existing patches, and this one takes the cake. I cant believe he thought he would get 1200 for this abomination.

All Star Fake #3

Chin Ming Wang Fake All Star Patch – I think its hilarious that someone dropped 150 bucks on this piece of shit, especially because of what patch was in there. No way this is even close to real, yet that didn’t stop someone from freaking out enough to buy this card. Absolutely horrible.

If there is one piece of advice I could give you to live by, its definitely to do your research before you buy any card, even if you dont suspect anything. It takes five minutes and cant really hurt you to cover your ass. If you dont, you could end up as one of these schmoes who bought one of these idiotic fakes. Ebay is not looking out for you, so the only person who will help you is you. Write that down.

Ignore The Uncirculated Holders

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Just because you come across an item in a Topps uncirculated holder, doesnt mean its real. Ever since Topps started using them back in the earlier part of the decade, scammers have used them as a way to legitimize a fake card.

These holders are no longer used, obviously for football, but also for Baseball. In football, they werent even used for the entire 2009 season. That didnt stop this guy from trying to pass this off as real. See, the sticker is so easily peeled off and reapplied, that anyone can take out the crap uncirculated card and replace it with a different one. Not sure why he chose that Moreno, but scammers usually arent the smartest people.
Then there is the buybacks, as I posted about last week. For the buybacks in 2005 and 2006, many of them came in these holders. Usually, that meant that every fake buyback from Topps came in one. There were also a few Upper Deck ones that came in topps holders too, and as soon as I see one, ill laugh and post it here. This Mauer is one of my new favorites, as the guy doesnt even have the confidence to show the actual auto in his scan. Nice pic dude.
Either way, dont be fooled by an uncirculated holder. They rarely prove anything and have actually become more of a red flag than an authenticator.

Do Your Best To Avoid Buyback Headaches

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Buybacks suck when it comes to the real/fake debate. Don’t let yourself think any differently, no matter how legit they seem. Its one thing if they are the 20th anniversary Ken Griffey Jr buybacks from Upper Deck with a matching COA, but its another thing if it’s a random Pujols card. Topps and Upper Deck spent a lot of time coming out with buyback auto cards over the last decade, and it has led to people trying to take advantage of those cards more than anything. It is too easy to fake them because the cards werent autoed when they were first released. Scammers pull any card they can find out of their common box, sign the front, put a peeled sticker from another card on the back, and call it a day. If they have honed their trade, they get one of the topps uncirculated holders and use that to give it more “legitimacy.” Don’t fall for it.

The main target of many of the fake buyback sellers is 2006 Bowman Originals, a product based solely on thee cards. In this high end product, Topps bought some good cards and some really crappy cards and had them resigned by players like David Wright, Pujols, and others. They put out boxes with one buyback auto per pack, and sold them at a ridiculous price for people who wanted to own the “original” cards signed by those players. There were two main problems with this set, primarily stemming from the way it was produced. First, for every one of the great players that graced this product, there were 20 that werent so great. In fact, the Wrights and Pujolses were numbered low enough that they became very valuable to player collectors who wanted a shot at them. This led to the second problem, stemming from the hand numbering of the cards. Because Topps hand numbered each of the cards in this set instead of serially numbering them, it was easy to see where scammers would have a field day. Topps also failed to provide a COA or foil stamp on the cards, which means that the uncirculated holder was the only thing standing between a scammer and the buyback gold.

Now that you have the background, it should be clear why you SHOULD NOT buy a buyback auto unless you are 100% sure it is real. That means a correct price, a well regarded seller, and a history check on the auto/card/seller itself. Compare and contrast with similar cards, study the makeup of the set, and try to determine a reason why it would be real. Approach guilty until proven innocent, because I have yet to see anything convincing to show me that buybacks are actually worth my time.

Here are some obvious fakes and the way scammers get you. I even saw a topps holder on a UD card once. Yes, they are that dumb sometimes.

Bowman Heritage Albert Pujols – Umm no. This card has a sig that isnt even close, and the fact that it’s a jersey card from Hertiage proves its fake status. He also has sold a few fake SPA patches in the last few months as well.

UD Masterpieces Ken Griffey Jr – Fake sticker, fake buyback, everything about this card is wrong. All buybacks feature on card signatures with few exceptions. This is not one of those exceptions. Plus, this card is pretty damning evidence to boot.

Tiger Woods Upper Deck Golf – Same seller, same result. These arent even close. Why even waste your time?

Basically, so many of the buybacks are too close to call, so it may be better to just avoid them. This is especially true if the player is high prestige. Although people have wised up, a lot of others have not. There are a lot of collectors obsessed with cards like this, and it continues to make demand high. My advice, just walk away and buy a nice version of another type of auto you know is real.

Scammers Are Usually Dumb, But Its Getting Funny Now

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As expected, the 2009 Ultimate Baseball jumbo patches are quickly becoming the most easily faked cards on the market. Because there is a square window with no swatch protection (like a cardboard overlay or design like this one), scammers have been able to easily remove the existing patch without a problem.

People like Aruba202, along with others, have taken it to a laughable level unseen since the release of the jumbo patches in 2005 Prime Patches. His patches are so ridiculous that I actually found my wife chuckling at how bad they were. I have posted on this subject before, but its getting too funny to ignore.
Here are some of their greatest “hits”:
David Ortiz “World Series” Patch – These patches are never real, and most people have caught on. That didnt stop this douche from going to the well one more time. I LOLed.

Tom Seaver “Mets Logo” Patch – For this product, Upper Deck took great care to match the pic on the card with the patch on the card. Aruba didnt get the memo.

Mariano Rivera “New Yankee Stadium” Logo Patch – When a team has no patches on their jersey, scammers go nuts when they have the chance to exploit a new sleeve patch. This one has already been sited as having a one color patch that was covered up by this new patch by overlapping it. Here is another for sale, sold by the same seller originally.
Carl Crawford “World Series” Logo Patch – Here is another laughable WS patch. What is even funnier is that people think these are real enough to bid on them.
Chipper Jones “Anniversary” Patch – Chipper has some amazing patches in this product, but this isnt one of them. The guy also has a fake Flacco SP authentic, and a couple fake rookie premieres for sale. Im not falling for it.
Cal Ripken Jr. “Anniversary” Patch – I am saying this one is fake despite the appearance of other similar REAL patches like this in the product. The guy has sold questionable patches in the past and this is a particular patch that scammers have been faking for years.
Really, im not sure if I would even think about buying from this part of the product simply due to how many ones out there that I couldnt even confirm. Who knows if cards like this, this, this, this, this, or this are even real? Some look to be on their third or fourth sale, and others are sold by people with no questionable history. With Upper Deck baseball in the hobby’s past, there will surely be no way to prevent further faking at all.
At least things are getting entertaining now.

Its One Thing To Be Bad At Faking

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I just dont understand the stupidity of some people. Why anyone even think of spending their hard earned cash on something as expensive as a Mark Sanchez SPA without looking at it first is beyond me. Look at this auction, and you will see exactly why I condemn the people who sell, as well as those who dont think before bidding.

See the problem? Its the image from the fucking sell sheet. The guy has posted an auction with the intent of selling a scan from the sheet UD puts out to promote the set. Some may say he is showing this pic because he cant get his own on eBay, but he even says in the description that the lines are from his scanner.
Hopefully this gets pulled before someone gets screwed out of hundreds of dollars.